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Refuting 119Ministries Polygyny Video

It is with deep regret that we find it necessary to refute 119Ministries for significant error in their most recent video regarding their (un)Biblical position concerning polygyny.

While we admit this is a third rail topic laden with cultural and emotional baggage, we also believe that Truth is more important than public opinion. And, defending our Elohim, His Word and the honor of our fathers, the Patriarchs, is well worth the potential cost.

In the interest of ‘Testing Everything’, we present our well articulated response to 119Ministries’ error laden video. We are deeply sorry to see 119Ministries sacrifice their once solid reputation by handling clear Scripture so very poorly.

Refuting 119Ministry Errors on Polygyny

Three Scholars on Patriarchy

Scholars are people trained in doing research, evaluating the data and reporting their conclusions. Normally that’s good when they are dispassionate and honest about what their data show. Sometimes, scholars have an agenda or bias and are selective about their data. That’s why on a given controversy, there are scholars to be found and cited on both sides of said controversy.

That said, we like to report the findings of scholars whose data supports traditional and biblical patriarchy.

The blogger over at Soil From Stone found these three scholars whose research shows that traditional patriarchy is the dominant form of marriage and family structure globally down through the centuries.

This blog entry is short and to the point: https://soilfromstone.blogspot.com/2008/05/patriarchy.html?m=1

Enjoy!

A Delightful Discovery!

I spend more time exploring the Word and reading books than exploring the offerings out there by different Messianic teachers. So I confess that I am not up to date with everyone!

A friend of this blog mentioned to me Jay Carper at AmericanTorah.com and two of his articles specifically written about Mutual Submission. Pete Rambo has discussed this subject at his personal blog natsab.com and on his YouTubes. So I was curious what Jay had to say. Below are his two-part articles on Mutual Submission and the second one is a gem in particular!! He made some connections that I’d not put together myself. I’ll be exploring more of what Jay Carper has already written on his blog and learning from him.

First part on mutual submission: http://www.americantorah.com/2014/09/20/mutual-submission-in-marriage-pauls-real-meaning-in-ephesians-522-33/

Second part on mutual submission (and really, really good!): http://www.americantorah.com/2014/10/28/mutual-submission-in-marriage-part-two/

Word of the Day… “Compersion”

Ok I’ll be honest…I had never heard this word before reading a blog post from a second wife in a polygynist family. So what IS it? Put simply, compersion is the OPPOSITE of jealousy! I’ve touched on jealousy before on this blog, but how do we actually rid our minds of this destructive emotion? Easier said than done, as they say. It takes work…INNER work. Just you, with the help of Yah, facing the ugly truth of your heart. I invite you to visit the original article, as the author does an excellent job of “showing her work”(remember math class? :))

http://www.alove2beshared.com/post/how-i-handled-jealousy-when-sharing-my-husband

Community: How, Why? Restoring kol Israel!

Here’s a teaser article worth your time that is announcing a coming video series: (Be sure to return here for discussion and input!)

https://natsab.com/2021/06/24/community-how-and-why-to-build-it/

A Very Concise Book Defending Biblical Polygyny

The other day I went shopping for a different book on Amazon and noted that this book was recommended. It was only $10 and I thought, why not?

The title is “In Defense of Biblical Polygyny (Multiple Wives). The author is Elijah J. Israel. It was published in 2021. The link is: https://www.amazon.com/Defense-Biblical-Polygyny-Multiple-Wives/dp/B0849VLT6B/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=In+Defense+of+Biblical+polygyny&qid=1623721352&sr=8-1

Israel doesn’t waste time and gets right to his subject material. He opens with an introduction to his topic and says what his thesis or focus is with the book. He is addressing the “bible believers [who] condemn polygyny because they view the text with a Western lens” (Israel, page 2.)

There are five chapters in this book.

  • What is polygamy
  • The emergence of Christian Monogamy
  • Prevalence of polygyny among the ancient Israelites
  • Fallacious biblical arguments against polygyny
  • Polygyny as a remedy for social ills

In each chapter, typically consisting of a few pages, Israel is very concise and makes his points very well. In the first chapter, Israel goes over the definitions of each form of polygamy. A very, very brief survey of the first few centuries of the Christian era with respect to the promotion of monogamy is the focus of the second chapter. Another survey of biblical men who had plural wives in Ancient Israel is the topic of the third chapter. Israel takes on six arguments against polygamy and offers short rebuttals to each in chapter four. Finally, for societies where marriageable women outnumber marriageable men as in the African-American community, Israel says that polygyny definitely should be an option; that is promoted in chpater five. Footnotes and a bibliography are provided.

If I have to quibble about something with Israel, it would be his statements on page 4 that India and China have more women than men due to female infanticide. I suspect that he got that backwards and meant to say more men than women in these two countries. Perhaps he might correct this in a future edition.

At 51 pages, this book is very readable, packed with the basic information and at $10 essentially an expanded pamphlet that polygyny advocates can distribute. This would serve very well as a concise introduction to the subject, and then the interested reader can move to more advanced and more exhaustive treatments already available on the subject.

Letters to my sister wife. A year later.

Dear Sister wife, March 8,2021

Has it really been about a year later since I wrote to you? Really!? Time goes by so fast! I’ve been through all the ups and downs of 2020. Covid has nothing on what I have been through in my submissive wife training that’s for sure. It’s been very humbling to say the least. Most would say it was the worst year of their lives. No toilet paper, no groceries, mask wearing and no clue of what the future will be like. I on the other hand say it was a pretty amazing year of spiritual change through and through. I have a note card that I pinned to the side of my bed. It says “Sometimes it takes 10 yrs to get the change you desperately need.” Well 2020 was certainly my year. I purposefully shifted mindset to the fathers will for my life in all things. One of the main things I did during my walk was, I actually tested the Father 3 times. Yes I know. I also can’t believe I did that either. Like seriously tested him. Looked up and said “if you actually want submission from me, then the next time I disagree or have a disagreement I will keep my mouth completely shut and let Matthew have his way. Let’s see what happens after that God.” And 3 times he showed up during the mental, emotional and spiritual tests (they are always all in one) and during these tests He said I’m right here, you did well Jessie and I will always love and protect you. Matthew always came back to me in love and either apologized for his words when he was frustrated or he just lovingly discussed what happened. EVERY time. When I passed Gods test the 3rd time, I threw up my hands and submitted to all of him. The 2nd time I tested the father was because the 1st time went so well I lifted an eyebrow and thought, “fluke.” Then when the same fluke happened again the 2nd time I HAD to test once more just to make sure. After all, 3rd times a charm right? From that moment on, freedom came for me and the entire household. Didn’t say I got it all down pat but during this transition I was learning a lot. So many times the Father had to nudge me back in my place. But all of that to know I am free! I want to shout it from the rooftop. No more jealousy no more rebelliousness. (Ok. Maybe not entirely no more but I was definitely nowhere I use to be) All that I have in me is the love for the Father. And I know that I know his in depth love for me. It’s what literally keeps me going. If the path that Matthew and I walk down leads us to you, I am ready to be the best sister wife I can be. I’m spiritually trained up and strong. Taught straight from the Father himself. He took the time to train me. I am humbled. I am submissive, I am empathic, I learned hospitality. I can now lower myself. I can be gentle and kind and not make excuses like I use to. I cannot wait for you to be in our lives. But it’s all on Yahs timing. So Matthew and I will continue to pray and wait. However, we can see a gentle, sweet, kind, spiritual silhouette of an uncovered woman out in the distance. The silhouette just split in three. Shorter ones right next to the bigger. Are these children? The image is getting closer but still I can’t tell if it’s you just yet. We are in prayer.

Love, Jessie

Result of Pope Nicholas I’s Campaign Against Polygamy

I was wondering why “R. Geshom ben Judah, known as the Meor Hagolah, light of the exile, issued a, takana, ordinance prohibiting bigamy” (B. Hooper, 2007) and found this blog post discussing different scholars’ attempts to precisely identify the motivating factors for the ban, or kherem.

During Hooper’s discussion, he mentioned one scholar’s attempt to tie the ban to the activity of the Roman Catholic Church in the two centuries prior to the ban. Either Hooper or the scholar Zeev Flak (or both) didn’t make the very likely connection between cause and effect as shown in the quote below.

Another approach to isolating the stimulus which necessitated Rabbenu Gershom to issue his ban against polygamous marriage is to look towards the Christian society which surrounded the Jews of Germany. This line of thinking is reflected in Zeev Flak’s work Jewish Matrimonial Law in the Middle Ages. In his work Falk goes to great length to provide the context for Rabbenu Gershom’s ban, starting in the mid ninth century when Pope Nicholas I (858-67) campaigned against polygamy in the Catholic Church. By the tenth century bigamy was not longer a problem among Christians, however, the Church attempted to curb concubinage and divorce among its devotees. 

Benji Hooper

Pope Nicholas I’s campaign was successful. But then the Church saw the rates of concubinage and divorce increase to the point where it required the attention of the Church!

It’s really hard not to see a direct cause and effect here!

Ban polygamy and concubinage and divorce increases! Mandatory monogamy does not bear good fruit.

Some thought provoking quotes from James Campbell, c. 1869

In 1869, a Christian philanthropist named James Campbell published a book titled The History and Philosophy of Marriage: Polygamy and Monogamy Compared. Filled with incredible wisdom and thought into natural law as well as Scripture regarding the societal effects of monogamy and polygamy. (Technically, the author always refers to polygyny, but uses the umbrella term polygamy.)

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